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Don't get yourself killed with your Light Hold

 
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Hoff



Joined: 28 Jun 2007
Posts: 506
Location: Warrior Nirvana

PostPosted: Thu Jul 05,    Post subject: Don't get yourself killed with your Light Hold Reply with quote

When I am the bad guy during low light force on force scenarios one thing that I see far too often is someone using an improper crossed wrist light hold. Whether the hold is an over, an under, a Harries, or an Ayoob, I see the operator searching with the hand held light and the muzzle pointed in a totally different direction, particularly when the operators pies to their strong side. This practice will get you killed as evident when I allow the operator to get the first shots and I am missed repeatedly even though the light is well aimed…I then have no choice but to shoot the operator with my Sims/Airsoft. Operators, you MUST practice your technique and make sure that your sights and light work together in tandem, otherwise; you may see them but you may not hit them. That’s why I prefer a side by side light hold. The sights and light work better together and exposes less of my body when slicing the pie from all angles.

Put a full-length mirror around a corner and dry practice at home. You’ll see what I’m talking about.

Be prepared to fight at night, which’s when it usually happens. Be ready for the lights to go out, they just might. When it happens you gotta have your pistol, gotta have your light, and you gotta WIN!
Hoff
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DEMON



Joined: 13 Jul 2007
Posts: 185
Location: Houston,Texas

PostPosted: Wed Oct 31,    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sound words as usual HOFF!Thank you for carring.If I was next to you Id give you a hug :] Twisted Evil
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Guntrainer



Joined: 09 Nov 2007
Posts: 19

PostPosted: Mon Nov 19,    Post subject: Reply with quote

As usual, Hoff is right. If you are going to be a high speed operator, you MUST get your act together with your flashlight. Get a GOOD one, Surefire or such. Train with it. Indoor ranges are generally dark enough to train with the light. The light MUST look in the same direction as your sidearm. DUH!

Like the man said, when it happens, it will probably be in the dark. If you train right, and often, you will hope the BG DOES come at night. You will RULE the night. You will own the poor fool.
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wichaka



Joined: 27 Jul 2007
Posts: 78
Location: Washington State

PostPosted: Sat Nov 24,    Post subject: Reply with quote

I carry a G2Z light, and use the surefire technique, with the light between the fingers of the support hand, and the light is in front of the trigger guard...........that way the light and gun are indexed with each other.

But I understand what you're talking about...........there's not enough low light training done. I see far too much fumbling going on..............
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M.W.



Joined: 12 Jul 2007
Posts: 130
Location: inside the loop

PostPosted: Sun Nov 25,    Post subject: Reply with quote

The crossed wrist flashlight hold is seen on TV crime shows even to this day like the CSI series and such. Bad techniques gets reinforced,bleh.

Side-by-side with me old 6Z is the way I practice and do our low-light scenarios. Even on my best day however,Brian would be a very tough BG opponent and I hope like h*ll there are none as good as him out there,lol.
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yellowdog762



Joined: 23 Jul 2007
Posts: 46

PostPosted: Sun Nov 25,    Post subject: Reply with quote

This is only slightly related but something some may not be aware of.

If you are using a long gun with optics after dark and there is any type of bright light behind you, you may not be able to see through your scope due to the reflection. Anyone else holding a flashlight or spot light (or vehicle head light) needs to be off to the side a good bit if it is dark and you are looking through glass.

We spot light wild hogs sometimes and the biggest reason we miss out on shots is usually caused by someone in the back ground “helping” by popping on an extra light just as the shooter starts to take aim on a black pig against a dark background.
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