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American Defenders - zeroing weapons

 
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Semper_Fi



Joined: 08 Jul 2007
Posts: 397
Location: Jakarta, Indonesia

PostPosted: Sun Jul 29,    Post subject: American Defenders - zeroing weapons Reply with quote

Hoff,
At American Defenders, we train with pistols, rifles and shotguns and everyone benefits when all students arrive at American Defenders training with their AR-15's and long rifles already zeroed.

Please advise at what distances you suggest we zero our AR's and long rifles for AD training.
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maclean



Joined: 30 Jul 2007
Posts: 26
Location: Western Washington

PostPosted: Tue Sep 04,    Post subject: Re: American Defenders - zeroing weapons Reply with quote

Semper_Fi wrote:
Hoff,
At American Defenders, we train with pistols, rifles and shotguns and everyone benefits when all students arrive at American Defenders training with their AR-15's and long rifles already zeroed.

Please advise at what distances you suggest we zero our AR's and long rifles for AD training.


At the Goldendale class, a small spirited side discussion came up about this.

I'm becoming a serious fan of the 50 yard zero and have a trajectory card that shows no greater than 2.5 inches of rise or fall over the sightline within any reasonable .223 distance.

I'd be curious to see what he has to say too.
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Hoff



Joined: 28 Jun 2007
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Location: Warrior Nirvana

PostPosted: Tue Sep 04,    Post subject: Rifle Zero Reply with quote

There is no right or wrong as long as you KNOW what you have and have the other distances doped out. My AR's Iron and ACOG is zeroed at 100. Anything inside one hundred is no more that the off-set low (2.5"). Everything over 100 is doped for reference. The ACOG with 4X is sweet at 100 yds but slow at CQB distance therefore I have a J-Point sitting on top for fast aquisition of close-up threats. Not a bad system but I am going to expirement with other set-ups.
Hoff
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Semper_Fi



Joined: 08 Jul 2007
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Location: Jakarta, Indonesia

PostPosted: Sat Sep 08,    Post subject: Selecting Weapon Zeroes Reply with quote

Each weapon is mission specific and here are my zeros:

AR-15 16" barrel .......... 50 yard zero

AR-10 20" barrel .......... 100 yard zero

M1A 22" barrel ............. 200 yard zero

Barrett M82 29" barrel .. 600 yard zero
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Semper_Fi



Joined: 08 Jul 2007
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Location: Jakarta, Indonesia

PostPosted: Sun Sep 09,    Post subject: GG&G quick disconnect Reply with quote

Hoff,
Have you experimented with quick-disconnects that allow the removal of a scope from a rail and gets you on iron sights in a few seconds?

GG&G makes an excellent rail style quick-disconnect that re-attaches quickly and accurately.
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Hoff



Joined: 28 Jun 2007
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 09,    Post subject: GG&G Quick Connect Base Reply with quote

Semper Fi, I have no choice with my AR. I have an ACOG on it which means that I cant iron sight through like you can with reflex sights like Eotech, so I have my ACOG attached to a GG&G base with levers. It comes off and goes on fast without losing zero. I don't forsee having to pull it off but you still have to plan for it. The problem is; when you pull it off, if necessary, in the heat of battle you gotta make sure you don't lose it...maintaining zero means nothing if I can't find the sight.
Hoff
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